Oh wow I'm an AFC

[Footsy]

I'm really am going back to being an AFC, I can just feeeeel it happening and I can't stop it. Just keeping my hands in front of me when the shit hits the fan.. I'm doing all the wrong moves, I'm not doing much PU and more social fuck ups then someone that use to be social master, getting diffrent girls every weekend. Now, I can't get shiiiiiiit, same shit diffrent ways.

I know, It might have to do with my last relationship because that's when shit just fell apart... Inner game is all fucked up, and comes out like crazy when I'm black out drunk.. and When I drink out I black out there is rarly a medium.

Well, its my friends 21st birthday today and I'm going out to that (sober) and I'm going out to eat with some friends in a bit. Game plan is too study PU all through out the holiday vacation, get my shit together, do some soul searching, and learn to control my drinking... it's gonna be interesting

anybody think thats a good idea or have anything to add? I need help getting out of this AFC ditch

[Fresh]

I saw something it was either here or on some other site about No Alcohol January.....I'm thinking about doing that. Alcohol is definitely a crutch for me sometimes, I think doing this will help.

[Fame]

well I generally keep the alcohol to 2 drinks max a night. that's it

[Keyser Soze]

DvF, I think it's a sensible suggestion. I know a few people who have pretty tight game when they're loaded, but in my experience they tend to be folks who have their inner game locked down. If you have any "wobbles" in your inner game, they will usually start leaking out when you're drunk - which is exactly what you said is happening to you. And black out drunk is simply not a good look. If it happens occasionally because the evening is just festive and it spirals a little out of control, fine, but if you can't start drinking without winding up face down in the proverbial gutter, alcohol is no longer a crutch so much as the bastard who's driving the car - and eventually you aren't going to like where he takes you...

It won't be easy, but a dry January may be just the thing to enable you to focus on the inner game issues that have knocked you a bit sideways right now.

Cheers,
KS

[KingOfAces]

i do a decent amount of drinking when i go out partying, and i honestly don't feel it hurts or helps me. but every person is different. for some people, they lose their inhibitions and can approach better when drinking. not good. you need to be able to do it sober. for others, they get sloppy when drunk and fall apart. of course thats not good either. if you enjoy drinking, then have fun when you go out, have a drink or two. if once in awhile you plan on getting wasted, then great. have fun with it. and whatever happens with your game happens. but don't get in the habit of having to drink in order to pickup. thats a crutch, which means you're not only cheating others, but you're cheating yourself. the game is about bettering yourself in many ways. and if you can only be a "better person" when you're drunk...then its time for some AA, and i dont mean approach anxiety...

dvf. its all in your head. theres no such thing as a slump or a streak. they're both mental and whatever you truly believe is going on, will reflect itself through outward results. go back and do rules of the game again. do a couple challenges each day if you can. i typically try to make it through the book about every six months. back to the basics is always a good thing...

[Metz]

Just throwing out some random thoughts that I had & have sometimes.

When I viewed going out to bars, or with wingmen, or to parties, or to social events in celebration of something, I always told myself I need to pick up women. And I would run through some openers, play scenarios out in my head, and read some forms.
Then I would go out and A) I would have a kickass night, but generally just end with a phone number OR B) kinda stand around like an afc and not have a good time.

I viewed it as a job...as a task - to go out and be social and meet girls.

That went on for about 1.5 years. I hit a very, very hard plateau. Granted there were some cool "spikes" with super crazy nights were I would do everything right and I would make out with some chicks tits in a club or something, or pull the chick who made my sandwiches and fuck her, but those weren't on a very regular basis. Going out still seemed like having to put in an effort. And I still had the afc, looking bored, stand around moments.

Then pickuplabs scavenger hunt came out and that was when the whole pickup scene stopped being a 'job' for me. I opened more girls in 4 days than I ever had before. And I didn't even try. I'm not saying specifically the scavenger hunt changed me, but the idea was a catalyst. Everything I did in those 4 nights was money. I had zero anxiety, about three awkward moments and about fifty kickass moments. I met girls who invited me along with them and we partied all night. Just because I video taped myself thumb wrestling with them. That was my only motive to go talk to them.

And that's just it.

It wasn't about picking up girls. It was about doing what ever the fuck entertained me (but not at the expense of others). Regardless, going out at night since then has never seemed like a 'job'.

Now that I think some more, I remember exactly where i was, where you were, and where I'm out now. I think of it like this:

Old me: Couldn't see advances by women, nor could i create them.
When it seemed like a job (1.5 yrs in): Could see advances and acted upon them -successfully, couldn't fully grasp creating them and stuttered hard with it
Blue belt Metz: Can see advances and act upon them, and can create attraction on a regular basis and doing so while not focusing on picking up.

Last random thought:
My wingman always told me that when we go out on the weekends - it is to have fun. Not about picking up women. That makes 100% sense to me right now. It's what changed me.
But I have a hard time explaining it to someone else. Does this mean I don't open? No.
I think the best way to describe it is: I choose to/not to open women when I go out not because of fear or anxiety, but because I simply don't want to at the moment.

Maybe something in there will stick out for ya.

[Footsy]

This is kinda my 2 cents on what everyone said.

King: I've done the challenges about 4 times now, it is a good idea to do it again. I thought about that last night, and I agree maybe I should knock out a few challenges to get myself back up.

Metz: I don't have AA, or problems with my actual game. Sometimes I attract women and I don't even try... it's weird. I got a #-close yesturday from a hot ass waitress just by eye contact game. (she opened me later after I used my eye contact game, PM ME and I'll explain) I have noooo problem in picking up. I have a problem with inner self and actual relationships.. see I drink and become an ass hole, but I mask it so well that I'm a friendly ass hole because I mind fuck and manipulate like none other. I've gone out some nights with not a dollar and ended up black out drunk, and a taxi ride home with some chick I can't remember the name of (LOL homecoming this year)

I think your right though, I consider it a job more then having fun.. I do miss out on that, and therefore I need massive inner game help.

Its not the drinking, its not the random lays, its not the feeling of lonleiness, its me not loving ME.

I just make massive AFC moves right meow and its annoying me...

Thanks everyone for the advice though!

P.S. PUA baseball on SLA is like the pickuplabs scavanger hunt, Just lost the MVP title last game :/ I'm in a down fall.