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Stiegl3 wrote:
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What part specifically are you asking about - that I would handle?
How would you handle this age discrepancy thing without freaking her out. She might accept, she might not, but what is the ideal way to approach it so she doesn't immediately say I'm too old for her.

She might accept, she might not - but who cares if she doesn't - it's her loss she didn't get a chance to suck your dick.


A number of ways you could handle it, but I'm a fan of just owning my age

could joke around and say you're 168, not a day over 308, but I don't really do


Or say - age is only a number, what matters to me most who someone is - can be young, mature grounded, or be old and immature... for me it's all about what we do/who we are that matters
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Stiegl3 wrote:
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Post up your examples of what girls are doing to qualify you/comfort via text!
Let's say with this one girl, she's a nurse and works evening shifts 6 days a week. We were supposed to get together on her free night but something came up. Talking to her on match.com was easy. Then we move to text (can't call though, I work days).

I'm trying to build some comfort and maybe qualify lightly...

HER: Hey, christmas shopping is going alright. I'm actually at the mall right now. How's your day going?

ME: It's going good so far. I was at the mall yesterday, so many little kids I didn't know if it was a mall or a daycare. I was looking for those fancy wine glasses. Is it busy right now?

HER: No it's not too bad at all. Best time is to come on a weekday.

ME: Yeah, sounds like it. I guess working evenings defintely has its advantages. Who are you shopping for?

HEr: My Mom. I have the day off today. I rotate between day and night shifts.

ME:Nice we're going to do a secret santa this year as well, I've just got to get around to organizing the name draw. Going back to BC for christmas break?


This is an easy conversation in real life, but extremely cumbersome by text with 20 minute gaps between messages. Unfortunately, I can't call her and I didn't get into comfort online.


Right off the start - what do you want? A girlfriend, or girls to fuck. If just fucking, then why bring up kids - that is relationshippy stuff that do you do not need to do to build comfort. And it's misleading!


This convo is boring and dry


Post up your match.com interaction - if you're comfortable - and I'll take a look at what I can suggest
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Ice wrote: A number of ways you could handle it, but I'm a fan of just owning my age

Or say - age is only a number, what matters to me most who someone is - can be young, mature grounded, or be old and immature... for me it's all about what we do/who we are that matters
Ok, I like that. If I just own it and don't make it a big deal, she won't make it a big deal either.

Thanks Ice, I'll try that.
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Ice wrote: This convo is boring and dry

Post up your match.com interaction - if you're comfortable - and I'll take a look at what I can suggest
The match.com interactions are about the same. Fairly sober conversation, only there I have the opportunity to add better DHV's and easier jokes. Still not that much better tho.

Can you give me a quick example of what this conversation SHOULD look like... 5 or 6 lines back and forth, doing some comfort over text with the same starting topic. That would probably show me my error better than anything.
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There are three reasons/purposes to calling/texting a girl:
Your message should work towards a date. Whether a D2, D3, or other, you should be focused on moving the interaction forward. Seed your D2s, try to get at least one phone call in so she knows that you're real and not just a serial texter.

Your messages should give you presence. She meets you at the club and gives you her number. She WANTS you to message her. But you don't message her for a few days...by then, she's chatting with other guys...while the heat she has for you gets cold. Use texting to spike her buying temperature and keep you in her mind, especially after you've locked in a date.

Your messages should sexually escalate. Most guys (admittedly, me included) get into running text routines which, while fun, don't move the interaction towards sex. So eventually you'll have to push yourself out of your comfort zone, start sexting/phone sex/asking for dirty pics/etc. There are a lot of great resources here by Taz, Science, Maestro, and others on how to properly turn a text message dialogue into a sextual conversation...
From the text example you gave, it sounds like you do a lot of the second one, BUT remember: your first and foremost goal is to lock her into a date because without a date, you're simply messaging back & forth and slowly placing yourself in the friendzone.

And even then, like Ice said, your texts are boring; they sound like stuff that friends say to each other, not what guys who know how to turn girls on say...

Also as Ice said, texting has to be very fluid, although the flowchart gives you a guideline to keep you on track to make sure you remember to move towards seeding and locking in the date!

What to text? Lots of great lines and examples can be found if you look through the archives. Here's a great bunch of them. Simply plug and play into the flowchart.

As for the age objection, if she brings it up, it's only a big deal if you make it a big deal, and there's a lot of ways to deal with it. As a guy who's in his mid-30s and last two exes and current gf is in their 20s, here's my favourite way of dealing with it:

HB: How old are you?
You: Guess...
HB: I dunno...30 / I don't like guessing
You: I have a rule, you're only as old as the last girl you kissed/fucked/cuddled with...so I'm 23 ;)


A few guys here say, "I'm old enough to do it right, young enough to do it all night" ;)
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Alright, thanks for the help Ice and DJ, you've given me some pretty solid answers that make sense.

Cheers.
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Stiegl3 wrote:
Ice wrote: This convo is boring and dry

Post up your match.com interaction - if you're comfortable - and I'll take a look at what I can suggest
The match.com interactions are about the same. Fairly sober conversation, only there I have the opportunity to add better DHV's and easier jokes. Still not that much better tho.

Can you give me a quick example of what this conversation SHOULD look like... 5 or 6 lines back and forth, doing some comfort over text with the same starting topic. That would probably show me my error better than anything.
Here's one:

http://bravopua.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=33
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Stiegl3 wrote:Alright, thanks for the help Ice and DJ, you've given me some pretty solid answers that make sense.

Cheers.

Cool, glad we could help.


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