? on spray on pheromones - is that gay

[Ray_Ray]

I just used some pheromones from a spray bottle, does anyone have any opinions on if pheromones is gay?

PM is great too.

Thanks,
Ray Ray

[Ray_Ray]

I realize I am asking the wrong questions again. The pheromone spray isn't gay.

Went out tonight for NYE: No plans, I trying to get into places without being on list, or the cover cost was too much. By the time I ended up in a bar, I had zero chances b/c my state was shitty. Some sets, but died quickly. Did not meet objectives of kissing a girl at midnight.

Please dis-regard this entire thread,
Ray Ray

[Noa]

I'm not going to disregard this entire thread because you had a question. I understand it's new years, but you have a question and I'm going to help you.

Pheromones don't mean shit if you don't have game/stack, etc... You can wear all you want, but if you can't hold a conversation for more than 10 seconds, it won't matter. You don't need to spend your money on pheromones, especially when you have this forum to help you. I can't say how much this forum has helped me improve and continuously is helping me improve. Visit the FREE coaching threads. FREE, meaning you spend no $$$ on it. They will help you out more than you expect.

Also write up a field report of what happened tonight.


I saw a quote once here that I think speaks so much truth. The guys getting laid are the ones getting rejected in-field. So if you keep going out, the success and opportunities will follow.

Zero chances? Bullshit excuse.


HOW BAD DO YOU WANT IT? All I read are excuses, not solutions. Even if you didn't meet you objectives, you still opened sets. You're already ahead of majority of other guys out there.

I'm not here to patronize you or anything, but take advantage of the stuff offered here on this forum.

[Ray_Ray]

Visit the FREE coaching threads. FREE, meaning you spend no $$$ on it. They will help you out more than you expect.

I saw a quote once here that I think speaks so much truth. The guys getting laid are the ones getting rejected in-field. So if you keep going out, the success and opportunities will follow

Thanks Noa - I will persist because I have no other options besides going gay/homosexual. I will take your words as my new year resolution.

Regarding field report from last night - I won't waste people time on a really bad night. There is zero good things to learn: everything I learned I posted when I got home.

Thanks Noa,
Ray Ray

[Thiga]

Regarding field report from last night - I won't waste people time on a really bad night. There is zero good things to learn: everything I learned I posted when I got home.

You couldnt be more wrong my friend!!

People are here to help, that isnt a waste of time.

To be brutally honest, you dont yet know what you dont know! You might not even be aware of the chances missed or things that could have went differently.

And you wont be aware of them unless they are pointed out to you.

Let me save you a lot of time. I spent at least a year only posting successes I had, but rarely ever the failures. I could be miles ahead if I was brutally honest with the forum and did what I could to change .

Now you and I both know things are going to drastically change in the near future, but do not follow in my habit of avoiding the negative. Own what you do and report back everything you can remember.

Now I just have to start listening to my own advice


Now tell us about the sets you opened!!
- How did you approach?
- mixed set, 2 set solo?
- did you use a canned opener or just off the cuff?
- How did they react?
_ then what happened?

[Thiga]

Regarding field report from last night - I won't waste people time on a really bad night. There is zero good things to learn: everything I learned I posted when I got home.

You couldnt be more wrong my friend!!

People are here to help, that isnt a waste of time.

To be brutally honest, you dont yet know what you dont know! You might not even be aware of the chances missed or things that could have went differently.

And you wont be aware of them unless they are pointed out to you.

Let me save you a lot of time. I spent at least a year only posting successes I had, but rarely ever the failures. I could be miles ahead if I was brutally honest with the forum and did what I could to change .

Now you and I both know things are going to drastically change in the near future, but do not follow in my habit of avoiding the negative. Own what you do and report back everything you can remember.

Now I just have to start listening to my own advice


Now tell us about the sets you opened!!
- How did you approach?
- mixed set, 2 set solo?
- did you use a canned opener or just off the cuff?
- How did they react?
_ then what happened?

You said you posted everything you learned in field when you got home. Thats awesome that you are learning and are picking up on shit on your own. it really is. But what you really learn is from us scrutinizing your FR and giving you feedback. Thats the point of the FR is so people with waaaaaay more experience and insight can read what we did right and wrong and tell us right away what to change or expand on. Then armed with that new knowledge we go back and do it all over again lol

[Ray_Ray]

I could be miles ahead if I was brutally honest with the forum and did what I could to change .

Noted.

I feel that field reports are meant for 'help me - something I did was wrong but I don't know it was'. (((extra note on my recent FR i posted, I only did b/c I made commitments to BH brothers and it wasn't to find out what I did wrong))). At my currently level, I'm not able to post FR to teach other guys. This is what a FR means to me.

Regarding my NYE night: I believe without doubt I know exactly what I did wrong and that was "No plans".

I should have put in effort in advance to create a good plan to meet my one objective. Almost everything with south that night b/c of me not having a plan - and it snowballed into a bad night. When I got home looking at my thought process before going out - I knew the pheromones wasn't the gay factor.

My plan now:
I have setup an initial plan (Right now its pretty much only timesframes I'm not allowed to be at home during weekday and weekend) to meet women in my area. I have ideas on how to target women I like - but for now its only about number of women I can practice on.

What I've been doing tonight:
Well I went directly home because work is picking up now after the Holiday Freeze and I'm mentally tired. I'm finished another chapter in a fascinating book. I now will be practicing Bravo's Openers, DHVs, routines and other goodies with a voice recorder until I fall asleep. I would consider this my nerd aspect and tomorrow I plan on unleashing the robot aspect of myself.

[Jay-T]

The concept of pheromones being gay is just wrong. The only thing that's gay is having sex with members of the same sex. Clothes, scents or even liking a girl sticking fingers up your ass doesn't make you gay.

Pheromones ARE a waste of money though. Spend that money on something that will help you. Like a coaching call or a 1on1 with bravo. Hell, even if you spend money on something to dhv yourself like taking a firearms class, getting SCUBA certified or going skydiving

[Ray_Ray]

Clothes, scents or even liking a girl sticking fingers up your ass doesn't make you gay.

LoL - not comfortable with that last statement yet. Maybe the right girl might open me up but for now nothing up my ass please.

,
Ray Ray

[DJNinja]

I feel that field reports are meant for 'help me - something I did was wrong but I don't know it was'. (((extra note on my recent FR i posted, I only did b/c I made commitments to BH brothers and it wasn't to find out what I did wrong))). At my currently level, I'm not able to post FR to teach other guys.

Not true!

A lot of guys at your level probably have the same experiences as you, so when they see you write about it, they can relate. More importantly, when others read the great advice that senior members give to help you out, it helps them out as well.

Bravo has a saying: "A rising tide lifts all ships." We're all here to help each other, sometimes even indirectly when you post your Field Reports.

Even if you had a shitty night where nothing works and you have nothing to brag about...you should post a field report. Because when you have a shitty night when nothing works, it's usually when you experience the most growth.

Need an idea on how to write a good Field Report that gets read and constructively critiqued? Read this.

I should have put in effort in advance to create a good plan to meet my one objective. Almost everything with south that night b/c of me not having a plan - and it snowballed into a bad night.

Agreed. "When you fail to plan...you plan to fail."


Looking forward to your Field Report!