DJ and Ice: Coaching thread Thursday Nov 14 - DONE

[Ice]

DJ and I are on for Thursday's coaching thread.

Come hang out, have some fun, and post your sticking points you are struggling with.


See you then

[DJNinja]

Looking forward to it!

9pm Eastern, 7pm BRAVO/AZ time, 6pm Pacific, 4pm Hawaii time - see you then!

[Ice]

LIVE!

[romanianmmaguy]

My plan options for Friday:
DJ said to retry seeding one last date
1. Ask two girls to come to football game. Risk is too cold weather. Plus is that one girl asked me 2 weeks ago before i went cold when next fball game so more chances?

2. Ask 2 gilrs to come to mall

How should i go about this? Where should i pick? Should I call the one iwent cold on who has a bf (she recently forgave him for cheating) or one i talk to more often? I will invite them both

Rejection--->nexting----> sarge at game, could always go to mall Saturday

How do i keep my confidence constant? I fluctuate from highs and lows...

I refuse to not approach if i go sarging however.

I am considering using Bravo's empty seat opener. Is this direct or can continue with indirect script?

Any way i can test a girl face to face for IOIs make her do something to see true intentions?

[Methos]

First time on the new format.

I need some help reframing myself to believe it's okay to carry on sexual relations with multiple girls, casually, at the same time. Only when I came to Bhood, a year ago, is when I allowed myself to even text/talk to multiple girls at the same time. And about two months ago I pushed myself to go on a date with a new girl (while actively banging another one called hbnurse).

Guilt is the emotion I feel the most when pushing my boundry in this respect. While banging/dating hbnurse, I had opprotunties to go on a D2 with the girl I D1'd mentioned above, another girl I could have flcosed almost certainly, and a third I slept with before I met hbnurse I could have banged some more. I felt too guilty to persure any of these other women even though me and hbnurse had never talked and set any expectations. We both did bf/gf behavoir though. Anyways, that's just some recent back story to help you understand what's been going on with me lately.

Can you give me a different perspective on this as to why I should not feel guilty and instead feel this is completely normal to bang as many girls as I want during the early "getting to know you" stage with a girl I haven't written off as only a possible FB? I was vetting hbnurse for more than just casual sex at the time.

[DJNinja]

1. Ask two girls to come to football game. Risk is too cold weather. Plus is that one girl asked me 2 weeks ago before i went cold when next fball game so more chances?

You're overthinking it. Just ask her out, then deal with the possibility of cold weather when she accepts.

2. Ask 2 gilrs to come to mall

How should i go about this? Where should i pick? Should I call the one iwent cold on who has a bf (she recently forgave him for cheating) or one i talk to more often? I will invite them both

Invite both, if both are free, just simply schedule the dates at different times. If one flakes, you're still going to be out for both, so simply make approaches so it's not a waste of your time.

Rejection--->nexting----> sarge at game, could always go to mall Saturday

Agreed

How do i keep my confidence constant? I fluctuate from highs and lows...

By going in-field more. The more you go out and work on this skillset, the more CONSISTENT you get, so eventually it's less highs & lows and more steady consistent work

I am considering using Bravo's empty seat opener. Is this direct or can continue with indirect script?

Use it, it's a great opener. After using it, you can go either direct or indirect; it doesn't matter. What matters is you have a solid transition into a DHV story or routine that keeps their attention.

Any way i can test a girl face to face for IOIs make her do something to see true intentions?

You mean compliance tests? There's a bunch, but off the top of my head:

If you're holding her hands, squeeze. If she squeezes back, she's into you.
If you go quiet (you insert a quiet pause in the conversation) and she re-engages the conversation, she's interested.
If you twirl her and she complies, she's into you.

There's a bunch, simply use the search tool to find them.

[romanianmmaguy]

Misconception:

1 and 2 are different options for the same girls. Thanks for the pointers!.

[Ice]

My plan options for Friday:
DJ said to retry seeding one last date
1. Ask two girls to come to football game. Risk is too cold weather. Plus is that one girl asked me 2 weeks ago before i went cold when next fball game so more chances?

2. Ask 2 gilrs to come to mall

How should i go about this? Where should i pick? Should I call the one iwent cold on who has a bf (she recently forgave him for cheating) or one i talk to more often? I will invite them both

Rejection--->nexting----> sarge at game, could always go to mall Saturday

How do i keep my confidence constant? I fluctuate from highs and lows...

I refuse to not approach if i go sarging however.

I am considering using Bravo's empty seat opener. Is this direct or can continue with indirect script?

Any way i can test a girl face to face for IOIs make her do something to see true intentions?

Hey Rom, why are those your only options? Instead of asking 2 girls to the mall, can you invite ONE on a date? That way it's just you and her...

And what will your date look like - are there any places near yours that you can go to - and if you two hit it off, you can pull to your place?


If you are set with two girls going to the mall - what would that date look like? What's your game plan?

Will you be walking with them while they try out clothes and stuff - b/c that's what friends do... or bf/gf and you're not that either...


If you go to the mall, you could make it fun and do a scavengar hunt. Even if you do that, I still recommend just inviting ONE girl out... Why two?

If a girl asked you when the next fball game is, then that could be an IOI... did you act on that? If you haven't, then invite her out on a date - JUST HER.

The "is this seat taken" opener is a fun way of opening girls... if you deliver it well you will have their attention so go ahead and carry a fun/playful conversation with them.

I'm not sure what you mean by testing a girl for IOI.... girls will give you IOI's if they like you... You can give a statement of intent (SOI) and see what she does... "you're pretty sexy." and then step back and see what she does.

If she is a hired gun then she may be hitting on you for tips or to get you to buy stuff.... If you think she's really into you, then you can go for number and date close her before you leave and see how she reacts.

[DJNinja]

First time on the new format.

I need some help reframing myself to believe it's okay to carry on sexual relations with multiple girls, casually, at the same time. Only when I came to Bhood, a year ago, is when I allowed myself to even text/talk to multiple girls at the same time. And about two months ago I pushed myself to go on a date with a new girl (while actively banging another one called hbnurse).

Guilt is the emotion I feel the most when pushing my boundry in this respect. While banging/dating hbnurse, I had opprotunties to go on a D2 with the girl I D1'd mentioned above, another girl I could have flcosed almost certainly, and a third I slept with before I met hbnurse I could have banged some more. I felt too guilty to persure any of these other women even though me and hbnurse had never talked and set any expectations. We both did bf/gf behavoir though. Anyways, that's just some recent back story to help you understand what's been going on with me lately.

Can you give me a different perspective on this as to why I should not feel guilty and instead feel this is completely normal to bang as many girls as I want during the early "getting to know you" stage with a girl I haven't written off as only a possible FB? I was vetting hbnurse for more than just casual sex at the time.

Great question. And welcome back!

Lots of limiting beliefs at play, and the only way to break through them is to take them head-on, as you did when you let yourself go on dates with one girl while banging another. After realising that it's no big deal, you expand your comfort zone a little more. So you're on the right track, you simply have to do it.

To make it easier, here are some ways to frame it:

• When you're dating and not exclusive yet, remember that she's doing the same. As in, she's seeing other guys too...and she's sleeping with the ones wo turn her on sexually. You're a guy with the superpowers to do that...so do it!
• If you've only been seeing a girl for a few WEEKS (and even a few months), it's waaaaay too early to become exclusive with her. You may or may not have seen her crazy side yet...
• Besides, you're a man of options...Why settle right away?

[Ice]

First time on the new format.

I need some help reframing myself to believe it's okay to carry on sexual relations with multiple girls, casually, at the same time. Only when I came to Bhood, a year ago, is when I allowed myself to even text/talk to multiple girls at the same time. And about two months ago I pushed myself to go on a date with a new girl (while actively banging another one called hbnurse).

Guilt is the emotion I feel the most when pushing my boundry in this respect. While banging/dating hbnurse, I had opprotunties to go on a D2 with the girl I D1'd mentioned above, another girl I could have flcosed almost certainly, and a third I slept with before I met hbnurse I could have banged some more. I felt too guilty to persure any of these other women even though me and hbnurse had never talked and set any expectations. We both did bf/gf behavoir though. Anyways, that's just some recent back story to help you understand what's been going on with me lately.

Can you give me a different perspective on this as to why I should not feel guilty and instead feel this is completely normal to bang as many girls as I want during the early "getting to know you" stage with a girl I haven't written off as only a possible FB? I was vetting hbnurse for more than just casual sex at the time.

Methos, good to see you on here - reminds me of back when we were in FC (PRE-PX DAYS). haha

You've come quite far since PX. Even after PX you said you were only wanting a relationship...


So before I go into how to reframe it to seeing other girls - what is it you really want? What is causing you to feel guilty - is it her? Or is it you?

Where are you guys with DTR talk, and how often have you seen HB nurse?

Are you saying you two are not gf/bf and doing gf/bf stuff? If so STOP!!!!

IF you are doing gf/bf stuff and telling her she's not your gf.... you are in denial and you ARE in a relationship. This is what your ACTION shows, and ACTION is always greater than words.


I'll wait to hear your response before going further about your original question.


And, how many girls have you banged since PX?