DJNinja & Ice Live Coaching Thread 11.07.13 - DONE

[Ice]

I decided I'm going to go out and approach for about 6 hours(mainly daygame) on Sunday. I feel like I should be much further along than I am now.

I really want to go out of my comfort zone and try some new stuff while I approach and stuff. Any suggestions? I'm open to trying just about anything.

What's your sticking point(s) you're working on?

[Noa]

More often than not I talk myself out of approaching a really attractive girl. I can tell I try to play it safe sometimes and it ends up bothering me instead(the me not approaching part).

I wouldn't say I have trouble with AA, but more so that I let a lot of opportunities slip by because I didn't just make the approach.

Let me know if I should add more context

[Ice]

More often than not I talk myself out of approaching a really attractive girl. I can tell I try to play it safe sometimes and it ends up bothering me instead(the me not approaching part).

I wouldn't say I have trouble with AA, but more so that I let a lot of opportunities slip by because I didn't just make the approach.

Let me know if I should add more context

Think you should keep it simple then and have only two or three openers

maybe add a warm up - hi, do you have the time, i'm looking to get to x.

direct - tell them they look sexy, had to come say hi, what's your name
indirect - opinion open them on something (free flow) or have a canned opinion opener ready


When in doubt of what to say, # close them.

[romanianmmaguy]

More often than not I talk myself out of approaching a really attractive girl. I can tell I try to play it safe sometimes and it ends up bothering me instead(the me not approaching part).

I wouldn't say I have trouble with AA, but more so that I let a lot of opportunities slip by because I didn't just make the approach.

Let me know if I should add more context

Exactly! It's not the adrenaline pumping AA that stops me, it's this!

[Ice]

More often than not I talk myself out of approaching a really attractive girl. I can tell I try to play it safe sometimes and it ends up bothering me instead(the me not approaching part).

I wouldn't say I have trouble with AA, but more so that I let a lot of opportunities slip by because I didn't just make the approach.

Let me know if I should add more context

Exactly! It's not the adrenaline pumping AA that stops me, it's this!

Just roll with it


either go for it, or get the next one

[Noa]

More often than not I talk myself out of approaching a really attractive girl. I can tell I try to play it safe sometimes and it ends up bothering me instead(the me not approaching part).

I wouldn't say I have trouble with AA, but more so that I let a lot of opportunities slip by because I didn't just make the approach.

Let me know if I should add more context

Think you should keep it simple then and have only two or three openers

maybe add a warm up - hi, do you have the time, i'm looking to get to x.

direct - tell them they look sexy, had to come say hi, what's your name
indirect - opinion open them on something (free flow) or have a canned opinion opener ready


When in doubt of what to say, # close them.

Thanks, looks like I was just trying to overcomplicate shit lol.

Also I have an update about that girl from the bus I told you about before. I have to head to bed now, but I'll let you know what happened hopefully tomorrow or sometime this weekend.

[Ice]

More often than not I talk myself out of approaching a really attractive girl. I can tell I try to play it safe sometimes and it ends up bothering me instead(the me not approaching part).

I wouldn't say I have trouble with AA, but more so that I let a lot of opportunities slip by because I didn't just make the approach.

Let me know if I should add more context

Think you should keep it simple then and have only two or three openers

maybe add a warm up - hi, do you have the time, i'm looking to get to x.

direct - tell them they look sexy, had to come say hi, what's your name
indirect - opinion open them on something (free flow) or have a canned opinion opener ready


When in doubt of what to say, # close them.

Thanks, looks like I was just trying to overcomplicate shit lol.

Also I have an update about that girl from the bus I told you about before. I have to head to bed now, but I'll let you know what happened hopefully tomorrow or sometime this weekend.

Haha sounds good man. Hope you finally opened her!

[DJNinja]

I just never know how to bring it up. Maybe I'm afraid of pushing the envelope but I'm always pretty tame with my messages so the line goes slack.

Have you read my post on the Eight "Innocent" Seduction Words? Make these words a part of your regular vocabulary by practicing them often on girls. Remember, these are simply words, it's up to the girl to (mis)interpret them

Once you get these words down, you can use them to easily transition the conversation sexually, or to downplay them if the girl isn't ready & comfortable yet to go there

[DJNinja]

If one hooks up with a lot of girls and after you hook up don't dig them a TON ... Would you let them go or kinda play them into your social circle?

Depends...

If you set the frame early with them that this is just a casual thing with no strings attached or no expectations, then it shouldn't be a problem inviting the girl to hang out with you as part of your social circle, as it will add social proof/preselection. After all, she's just a casual hookup and nothing more, so she's free to talk to other dudes while you're free to talk to other girls (in other words, no jealousy issues, since this is, after all, just a casual hookup and not an exclusive relationship).

BUT

If they don't provide any positive value (e.g., shitty attitude), then definitely don't want that around

[DJNinja]

More often than not I talk myself out of approaching a really attractive girl. I can tell I try to play it safe sometimes and it ends up bothering me instead(the me not approaching part).

I wouldn't say I have trouble with AA, but more so that I let a lot of opportunities slip by because I didn't just make the approach.

Let me know if I should add more context

Think you should keep it simple then and have only two or three openers

maybe add a warm up - hi, do you have the time, i'm looking to get to x.

direct - tell them they look sexy, had to come say hi, what's your name
indirect - opinion open them on something (free flow) or have a canned opinion opener ready


When in doubt of what to say, # close them.

Solid advice by Ice. You should listen to him!

Definitely agree to keep it simple, at least until you've perfected your current routine stack and know the majority of responses that you'll get from girls, as well as your own canned counter-replies to their responses. Once you have that down, add another routine or two to your toolbox until you've perfected that, and soon, you'll have enough rehearsed material to make yourself convincingly awesome...because you are